14 years
what about the butique hostels?
first how the chose who is going to be what?
shuod be owner choice...
third: no one have proper licence for such thing. u can not get the licence for it. it is ficition
Hostelworld Categories. Found this very interesting new feature that Hostelworld is introducing. I can't find any formal announcement from Hostelworld about this. I haven't found any discussion about this on this site either. Not sure how long that this has been "percolating" but it may turn out to be the biggest change to their hostel description section in the history of their site. I believe this will be very contentious.
For those of you with out access to the back-office of a hostels Hostelworld microsite here are the categories that they have created for all hostels to choose from. As it stands now they want us to choose two of the following list:
That's it.:eek:
The only explanation I could find was this ominous statement:
"Please select two categories that you feel represents your hostel.
Currently categories won't show on Hostelworld.com but they will in the coming months."
Wow...
14 years
what about the butique hostels?
first how the chose who is going to be what?
shuod be owner choice...
third: no one have proper licence for such thing. u can not get the licence for it. it is ficition
14 years
thanks for the explanation. i just heard back from hostelworld and they confirmed these definitions. Apparently they are still working on the definitions and i suggested 'laid-back' hostel for the list.
if we are going to be stuck with this (I am assuming you can choose not to check anything) then perhaps people should send suggestions to their 'buddies'.
Also hostelworld is having a bunch of regional meetings this year..the one for the western USA is in March...i think this is a good place to express your concerns about being pigeon holed.
14 years
By the way this is not a "proposal" by Hostelworld, this is a done deal, a directive/requirement for all hostels. The only unknown is when it will appear on their sites, which will include all the affiliates I'm sure.
How many hostels in the world fit any two of these criteria? I suppose if I had 5 hostels in a city then I would feel comfortable that I was able to service our current guest demographic adequately.
Am I the only one seeing the business limiting implications of this classification system?
I would like someone to explain the benefits of this rigid, limited classification system for hostels.
I'm still very unclear as to what the benefit to anybody this is?
@abooth77 Hostelworld has not released this yet. What you're seeing and referring to is a fairly innocuous tab on the main Hostelworld homepage and I'm not sure how many backpackers "drill down" through the main page.
This list of choices is intended to be used as part of the description for your hostel(s) on HW's microsite. You are the National Sales Director for Hostelling International, and although you have your own extensive in-house booking system for your hostels and a "following" of HI only guests this new feature will by extension effect your hostels less, I wonder how you would categorize HI Hostels, using the Hostelworld list of categories. Obviously HI has some non-staffed mountain hostels and hostels you could call ski hostels and some near beaches/surf easily enough but what will you call your HI's based in cities and towns?
@Ria thanks for following up with HW, I've been trying to reach them but it has been difficult. I hope that not checking the boxes is the best course. I just can't see how excluding potential customers is to anyone's advantage. Including Hostelworld.
14 years
I think I understand what HW is trying to do here but they seem to be going about it backwards - giving reviewers the ability to 'tag' a hostel as one or two of the categories available would a) enable hostels to avoid having to pidgeonhole themselves and b) means taht you could have split tags. ie. 40% of guests tagged this hostel as a party hostel, 30% as beach hostel and 10% as gay friendly. The level of these tags could obviously change over time and would therefore reflect what guests view the hostel as rather than how the hostel would like to be represented - with the former being both more important and accurate.
14 years
not make so much sense
but they are going to do it. we love hostelworld, whatever they do we love it
only thing what i want is to have one microsite for allllll booking engines. from hotel to hotels and bb around the world.
14 years
I think I understand what HW is trying to do here but they seem to be going about it backwards - giving reviewers the ability to 'tag' a hostel as one or two of the categories available would a) enable hostels to avoid having to pidgeonhole themselves and b) means taht you could have split tags. ie. 40% of guests tagged this hostel as a party hostel, 30% as beach hostel and 10% as gay friendly. The level of these tags could obviously change over time and would therefore reflect what guests view the hostel as rather than how the hostel would like to be represented - with the former being both more important and accurate.
I suppose "classified" hostels could lead to targeted advertising and product offers for Hostelworld. Still very unclear how a "classified hostel" has any real benefit to a hostel.
14 years
I LOVE this idea. If anyone else agrees they should approach their buddy to say so. I know i will when they have the regional in san fran.
btw...anyone going to the new hostelworld meeting format - the one day, party thing?
14 years
I think I understand what HW is trying to do here but they seem to be going about it backwards
Gordo is exactly right here - HW´s huge edge has always been their user-generated content. I think most users don´t give a crap about how the hostels describe themselves and know that even pictures can lie.
HW is trying to respond to the trend of diversivication. In highly competetive markets with lots of hostels, many of them stopped to try to please everybody, but specialize on a niche and tell everybody else to stay away. In order to stay user-friendly, users have to be able to identify the best choice for them in the shortest possible time. The average rating clearly has limits here. Reading through the reviews of dozens of hostels is too much fuss for most users, it takes too long.
I would go one step further than Gordo though - Josh had pointed out this idea previously: instead of tagging the hostels, I´d prefer a sulution where users tag themselves. For example, an Aussie bloke looking for party places is not interested in the opinions of Chinese girls who came to Europe to do sight-seeing [I´m only using silly stereotypes to make the point clear. Dear Chinese girls: you rock!]. So, there should be a way to filter. In order to be able to do this, reviews and ratings should stay on the site longer than six months, so the samples of filtered ratings don´t get too small.
Booking.com does exactly that: you can sort by ratings of all users, or, for example, only by ratings from couples.
There are also other ways the search options could be improved: it would surely help some users a lot if the hostels could be sorted by e.g. cleanliness ratings or fun ratings, not just by the overall rating.
There are still only six categories to rate - Hostelbookers has eight, in addition to HW´s categories, there is "facilities" and "value", those two make a lot of sense.
I´m really wondering why HW hasn´t outsourced their brainstorming to this forum yet! :D
14 years
instead of tagging the hostels, I´d prefer a solution where users tag themselves. SANTA C .... This is the proper solution!!
I have guest say to me... I looked at my demographics and everyone in mine liked it. push this to them sC
14 years
I like the users tagging themselves option - and i guess from HWs point of view it would encourage people to become members of HW rather than just casual users. Once users build up a reasonable profile on HW then they could very easily sort out their ideal hostel. Even just having the ability to see 'users who rated this hostel highly also booked X, Y & Z'.
Now, all HW has to do is find a way of properly linking peoples facebooks with their favourite hostels and it'd make their lives that much easier... assuming of course you're happy with more and more businesses knowing more and more about you. DUN DUN DUNNNNN...
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