9 years
You do understand if businesses talk and agree to keep prices the same then this is considered a business cartel and if found out the businesses can be brought to court.
:| Good morning to everybody.
Since to arrival of some big players on the market, I observe an increasing tendency to have a permanent price war.
Meininger is particularly playing this game.
Before they arrived, all hostels here in Brussels kept their rates at a fair level and there existed some kind of implicit gentlemen's agreement.
As I have a very small structure, I am flexible and I can open and close channels very easily. I merely observe this trend with sadness (I love to fill up in "hostel" spirit), but I can imagine the medium size players are suffering a lot.
Stupid situation for everybody: I have been talking to OTA's about this and suggestion they could work on that or at least act as advisors: low rates are bad for hostels, but indirectly also for OTA's.
Of course, nobody wants to get involved.
A good strategy could be for the medium size players not to follow the price dumpers; let them fill up first with the early bookings. They can only answer to a small portion of the demand of hostelbeds and the other players can fill up with all the other bookings at a fair rate.
Can we have a discussion on this topic?
9 years
You do understand if businesses talk and agree to keep prices the same then this is considered a business cartel and if found out the businesses can be brought to court.
9 years
Very interesting answer.
But, I am not referring to any cartel.
If most players just keep their rates as they are and let the warriors kill themselves, this is not at all cartel, but purely common sense. Not one single court can pretend the opposite.
Cartel is existing when there are hidden agreements between partners to set prices to a specific and agreed level.
What I am suggesting is common sense.
Big difference John.
9 years
This is a great topic.
In other discussions about price wars I have heard people suggest that OTAs should be responsible for addressing the issue, but I doubt that we would like it if they did.
For example, to address the issue perhaps an OTA could:
If they did any of these things, I think the hostels would balk and say that the OTA was taking away our power to control our pricing and our businesses. And we would be correct in that assessment.
Once a hostel of any size gets sucked into a price war it’s really hard to push the prices back up. If everyone starts dumping their prices, then everyone is stuck with them, and everyone suffers. Like Karel said, it’s important to resist following the price dumpers in the first place. As John mentioned, price fixing isn’t a legal option. We have to find alternative ways to compete.
Option 1: Get more of the guests (a bigger piece of the pie)
Option 2: Get more money from the guests that we do have (more toppings on your piece of pie)
Option 3: Get more guests to visit the destination (a bigger pie)
If anyone has managed to escape from a price war, can you share any specific actions that were beneficial to you or key to surviving?
For anyone who has seen a price war come to an end, what aspects or actions do you attribute to the successful resolution?
[Edit: After attending the ILH Hosteliers and Entrepreneurs Workshop I added Option 3 above, which seemed like a glaring oversight in the previous conversation]
9 years
Hey Brian,
Useful respons.
If I look at the market in Brussels I observe in 2 years time:
- an increase in average commission used by OTA's (every property is "free" to pay of not, but if you don't....; Visibility based on % commission let instead of quality offered to guests)
- A decrease of average rate caused by market dumpers
This represents at least 10 %, easily up to 15 % difference since 2/3 years for most players. And we all know this means 15 % off the margin in the short run.
Solutions? I can only answer with how I deal with it: channel mix and what I call "micro"-hostelling: cut the whole in small flexible units. Propose them in different channels, even under different types of accomodation (differentiation of target public). Make collaborators responsible for small manageable entities or units.
Small units increase customer intimicy, loyalty and satisfaction.
Don't act as a mastodont.
As I wrote, I am sad that the market forces me to move to other types of accomodation. I love the hostel-type activity and contact with guests, but of course, I need also to optimise my business to remain sustainable.
Best regards,
Karel
9 years
Solutions? I can only answer with how I deal with it: channel mix and what I call "micro"-hostelling: cut the whole in small flexible units. Propose them in different channels, even under different types of accomodation (differentiation of target public). Make collaborators responsible for small manageable entities or units.
Small units increase customer intimicy, loyalty and satisfaction.
This sounds like a new approach to me. Can you give an example of how this works? Does this mean you break up the physical facilities into smaller units? For example, selling the 2nd floor on one site and the 3rd floor on another site with different descriptions for different target markets? Or did you mean something else?
In the battle against price wars, opening lines of communication with other hostels is also very important. There is a natural inclination to assume that if your hostel is empty, then your competitors must have attracted all the guests. But price wars start because there is not enough demand for the beds in the city. Most likely your competitors are sitting empty as well, and thinking that all the guests must be in YOUR hostel.
By talking to each other you can avoid making the situation even worse. If everyone realizes that all the hostels are in the same boat, then no one needs to plunge the prices even lower in a futile attempt to gather up all those non-existent guests.
9 years
HHi Brian,
First of all thanks for your discussions. Great.
Of course, every micro market is different and every micro market asks for a different approach.
In the case of Brussels, we notice that a large proportion of hostel beds is in the end occupied, combining the early bookers and the last minute bookers.
I am merely writing about how I deal with the market. I can’t speak for the others. I am running a small place: 17 beds, managing everything myself. So, not necessarily very "representative".
Although, I guess some ideas of what I apply and call "micro-hostelling" can be considered by others, bigger players. The basic idea is that small entities can offer better service and hence, be stronger in competition. My advice is: empower your best collaborators (or attract them) and let them manage from A to Z smaller subsets. Make them responsible and make them feel they manage their own baby. Let them build costumer intimacy. Let them take the risks & benefits.
Make hidden entrepreneurship brake out.
Turn a mastodont into smaller flexible units which can be proposed (eventually converted) in different channels. Differentiate the image between the different channels. Apply dynamic channel management.
Move away from standardization and become original.
But of course, it’s easier said than done.
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