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Dear Mr. Hostelworld
Dear Mr. Hostelworld,
on your nice little videoclip at http://www.hostelworld.com/videos/16/around-the-world-in-156-seconds.../ it looks as if you own the world, the whole world of hostelling.
But you dont.
When i read all the threads about booking engines here on hostelmanagement.com my first thought was that you are doing like the Microsofties (Gates/Ballmer) do, meaning you are abusing your monopoly (about 90% of marketshare) to keep the competitors down.The M-softies were sentenced to pay hundreds of millions of Euros because of the abuse of their monopoly in desktop operating systems to enforce their Internet Explorer and they still are in court with the EU because they now do the same with their media player. It seems they dont care too much about the fine as long as it helps to keep the competitors down, meaning it pays for them in the long turn to act illegaly. But the longer i was thinking about it the more it became clear for me that your case is significantly different from the Microsofties case.
Of course your intention seems to be more or less the same meaning to keep the competitors down, which in pure capitalism isnt a crime for itself and in a certain amount is even necessary for surviving.
But.
You have choosen a deadly wrong way by taking the hostels as your hostages by pointing the gun right at their chest yelling "Use my PM or you will suffer!" (PM = Property Managementsystem) That's exactly what you are doing regarding the use of an automated interface to your Booking Engine.
Keeping a booking engine updated manually is a hell of a lot of work, thats why hostels want to use software to do the work. But the software you are offering for this is a simple "NO WAY!", "NEVER!" for most of the hostels i have met yet. Want to know why?
- Online only? NEVER!
"Whenever the internet connection gets lost my whole business will crash without any booking data available."
- Saving 100 Percent of the bookings on the server of a foreign company? NEVER!
"This company will know everything about my business, every single cent that crosses my reception will be recognized by this company."
- Beeing forced to one Booking Engine only? NO WAY!
"Other BEs offer different advantages and i need to offer my beds on as many platforms as possible to keep my business running. The software must support this"
- Browser based software only? WHY?
"The possibilities of todays browsers are still so limited. Every second mouseclick results in a complete rebuild of the screen, flickering and considerable time to wait, simply annoying."
Well done software running on the local machine never flickers and will have no recognizable response time, it simply does what you expect it for at the same moment you need it.
- "Putting as much trust in a company to let them know ALL of my customers data, ALL my bookings data, ALL my data about my income, even ALL about how my staff is organized by the login data, simply everything that is important for my business?"
They say their PM software is for free, but it will cost you much more than only money, it costs your INDEPENDENCE.
As a summarize this means to a hostel:
- "We have to face HEAVY counting disadvantages if we are forced to use the Hostelworld Online Property Management System called Backpack Online".
- "If we want to use the HW Booking Engine we CAN NOT use the tools of our choice for our property beause HW does not allow us to use different PM software but the one they are offering."
And this is the major difference between the Microsofties case and your case:
The M-softies offer more or less the same tools like their competitors do and therefor the customers only get damaged indirectly by cutting off innovation and competition in the industry.
What Hostelworld does is much worse:
You are confronting your customers with a direct and uncovered threat, therefor causing them direct and countable (in hours of work additinally spent and paid) damage.
This is called blackmailing in most civilized countries in this world and you will typically be sentenced to spend a significant amount of your future time in an accomodation run by the proper state itself for free, paid by the taxpayers of that certain country whether you like it or not.
And BTW this could become a very interesting case for the lawyers in this world regarding globalization:
If mr. HW has blackmailed the hostels in a certain country and therefor has been sent to jail there, is he still guilty of blackmailing other hostels in another part of the world because he has committed another crime in that other country? Meaning robin-go-round the whole worlds jails for the next ... lets say 156 years ...?
Wouldnt it be a shame if you personally could not travel any more to other countries without fear of always beeing sent to jail there because of having blackmailed the hostels in that certain country?
Hostelworld is the biggest player in hostel accomodation worldwide. Please be prudent and make your XML-interface (API) publicly available to everyone, without any attempt for blackholes or foottraps like they are well known from the Microsofties. Nobody is interested in starting a mud fight causing more or less damage to everyone involved. But with your success in generating worldwide bookings you also have a responsibility for the industry. Stop abusing it like you are doing right now as you will not profit in the long run. We all live in the 21 century, in a world of globalization and there is information that is no longer privately owned when people in the whole world depend on it. Microsoft has been forced to open their programming specifications by the EU. Do you really want to read the news saying "Hostelworld beeing forced to open their programming interface by EU-court"?
And for those who doubt the technical implications of my accusations. HW offers since many years the programming interface (API) to their Booking Engine to certain companies, they still offer an API to non-competitors based on XML.
For a well educated internet programmer it is a question of days to implement a programming interface based on XML. It has been done a thousand times before especially in the hotel business. There is even an opensource implementation supported by the mayor players of the industry called Open Travel Alliance at www.opentravel.org which is a perfect starting point for developers. Hostelsclub.com in Venice already did the implementation with their Booking Engine which works very nice.
Please start thinking of yourself as a member of the globalized world and not as a master about your 10.000 servants, called hostelmanagers.
Peter K.
software developer
Berlin
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15 years
Not yet. I thought it might reach him via this forum anyway.
But what is much more interesting to me is: what do you think about my accusations?
Peter K.

15 years
There is a "Mr Hostelworld" (several, actually), but Hostelworld is run by girls. You might want to change the form of address. ;)
They read this forum, so it´s not necessary to email them. They have some experience with that sort of accusations coming from Berlin.
You´re right that an API is overdue. Synchronizing allocations is a pain in the ass.
On the other hand, you can´t blame it on Hostelworld that they don´t have serious competitors. I work withthem since almost ten years and can´t say they ever really abused their monopolist power. Not nearly in the way other monopolies did, anyway.
Hostelworld is not my favourite enemy. My favourite enemies are hostel owners who make huge margins on bad service and/or treat their staff like shit. There are plenty of them. They give the industry a bad name, not HW. HW has actually done a lot to make hostelling more popular. Maybe too popular for its own good, but that´s another story.

15 years
> There is a "Mr Hostelworld" (several, actually), but Hostelworld is run by girls. You might want to change the form of address.
This is an interesting point for another reason too as they do not offer any information about their company on their homepage.
On the german page hostelworld.de there isn't even any address.
> They read this forum, so it´s not necessary to email them. They have some experience with that sort of accusations coming from Berlin.
Interesting! Can you give me any hint about where to find these accusations. On this forum maybe?
> You´re right that an API is overdue. Synchronizing allocations is a pain in the ass.
So its up to you hostelmanagers too to put some pressure on HW to change their policy about that. Because YOU are the ones to suffer from this on the first hand.
And BTW, what does this "Forum Guru, VC, DSO, MC" beneath your Nickname mean? Am i right you are a hostelmanager/owner?
>On the other hand, you can´t blame it on Hostelworld that they don´t have serious competitors.
I don't blame them for this. I blame them for abusing this monopoly in Booking Engines in another field named Property Management Software which is completly different from the first. They do have a lot of competitors there, the do not have a monopoly at all in this field because these competitors offer much more reasonable PMS for most hostels and there are plenty of hostels suffering from the lack of an API.
> I work withthem since almost ten years and can´t say they ever really abused their monopolist power. Not nearly in the way other monopolies did, anyway.
Not abused in the field of Booking Engines. But again, they are abusing it against their competitors in PMS.
> Hostelworld is not my favourite enemy.
Nobody talks about enemys. HW breaks applicable laws, thats the point.
> My favourite enemies are hostel owners who make huge margins on bad service and/or treat their staff like shit. There are plenty of them. They give the industry a bad name, not HW.
Guests will usually never realize which type of PMS is used in a hostel.
And again, all this is about you hostelowners as customers of PMS vendors, not at all about your guests as your customers, where HW does the best job in the industry.
> HW has actually done a lot to make hostelling more popular. Maybe too popular for its own good, but that´s another story.

15 years
This is an interesting point for another reason too as they do not offer any information about their company on their homepage.
On the german page hostelworld.de there isn't even any address.
Interesting! Can you give me any hint about where to find these accusations. On this forum maybe?
Well, there has been a lot of talk about HW on this forum as well, but I was referring to Gomio. Gomio was started because some Berliners specifically didn´t like Hostelworld. It failed and was sold recently. I hope the new Spanish owners improve Gomio´s business sense and decrease the ideology level...
So its up to you hostelmanagers too to put some pressure on HW to change their policy about that. Because YOU are the ones to suffer from this on the first hand.
Don´t worry. I´m doing my job on this field, too.
And BTW, what does this "Forum Guru, VC, DSO, MC" beneath your Nickname mean? Am i right you are a hostelmanager/owner?
The forum title is a joke. I have no idea what "VC, DSO, MC" actually means. :) Idi Amin used that in his official title. I´m dreaming of becoming a dictator in Africa one day. Or pope - the first atheist to rule the Vatican.
I don´t own anything except for my big mouth. I work for Wombats Hostels, in the headoffice in Vienna.
I don't blame them for this. I blame them for abusing this monopoly in Booking Engines in another field named Property Management Software which is completly different from the first. They do have a lot of competitors there, the do not have a monopoly at all in this field because these competitors offer much more reasonable PMS for most hostels and there are plenty of hostels suffering from the lack of an API.
Good point.
Nobody talks about enemys. HW breaks applicable laws, thats the point.
I´m not a lawyer, so I don´t know that. If you think they actually break a law, you may want to sue them, but I don´t think that´ll lead anywhere, at least not in the short run.
I´m telling them it is actually a stupid move not to provide an API. If all hostels would be able to synchronize their availabilities automatically, more beds would be available on Hostelworld and they would make more money. I figure they´ll find that more convincing than some hairsplitting about the law.

15 years
VC = Victoria Cross - usually awarded posthumously!
DSO = Distinguished Service Order
MC = Military Cross but in your case more likely to be Master of Ceremonies

15 years
> See here, here and here.
Still cant find any information there about who is the boss, but thats not too important. My guess is its Colm. At least i know his preffered travel destinations now...
> Don´t worry. I´m doing my job on this field, too.
Hopefully there will be others to join it. They say its 20000 hostels on their platform...
> Well, there has been a lot of talk about HW on this forum as well, but I was referring to Gomio. Gomio was started because some Berliners specifically didn´t like Hostelworld. It failed and was sold recently.
This is very interesting. Any links, hints? on gomio.com they say its still the EHC Gmbh running the site, owned by EHC ltd..
> I hope the new Spanish owners improve Gomio´s business sense and decrease the ideology level...
The first thing i would change is that stupid name...

15 years
Still cant find any information there about who is the boss, but thats not too important. My guess is its Colm. At least i know his preffered travel destinations now...
Nah, Colm is a marketing guy.
Hostelworld was started in 1999 by Tom Kennedy (back then the owner of the Avalon House Hostel, Dublin) and Ray Nolan, who was apparently the computer geek. Later, some shares were sold to various investors, in order to raise money for quicker expansion.
Hopefully there will be others to join it. They say its 20000 hostels on their platform...
There are.
This is very interesting. Any links, hints? on gomio.com they say its still the EHC Gmbh running the site, owned by EHC ltd..
Gomio has been bought by the Equity Hostels. Somebody posted that up here a few weeks ago. I don´t know more than that - and I couldn´t care less. :)
The first thing i would change is that stupid name...
Hehe, right. Their logo looks like a green pig nose. I would get rid of that as well. :D

15 years
They say its 20000 hostels on their platform...
Hostels.com claims "29,448 Hostels and other cheap places to stay worldwide" on the front page, but I'm guessing that about only 1/3 are actually hostels.
(There are also hundreds of hostels not listed on WRI (Hostelworld, Hostels.com) like the French HI hostels and many hostels in cities like Buenos Aires, Lisbon, etc.)
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