17 years
They know Biden will eat Palin alive. He will play football with her skull. They can´t let that happen.
No doubt...
Did you see this interview?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/25/palin-talks-russia-with-k_n_129318.html (excerpt)
:)
This parody of the 419er email scam has been making the rounds online:
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From: Minister of the Treasury Paulson
Subject: REQUEST FOR URGENT CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP
Dear American:
I need to ask you to support an urgent secret business relationship with a transfer of funds of great magnitude.
I am Ministry of the Treasury of the Republic of America. My country has had crisis that has caused the need for large transfer of funds of 800 billion dollars US. If you would assist me in this transfer, it would be most profitable to you.
I am working with Mr. Phil Gram, lobbyist for UBS, who will be my replacement as Ministry of the Treasury in January. As a Senator, you may know him as the leader of the American banking deregulation movement in the 1990s. This transactin is 100% safe.
This is a matter of great urgency. We need a blank check. We need the funds as quickly as possible. We cannot directly transfer these funds in the names of our close friends because we are constantly under surveillance. My family lawyer advised me that I should look for a reliable and trustworthy person who will act as a next of kin so the funds can be transferred.
Please reply with all of your bank account, IRA and college fund account numbers and those of your children and grandchildren to [email][email protected][/email] so that we may transfer your commission for this transaction. After I receive that information, I will respond with detailed information about safeguards that will be used to protect the funds.
Yours Faithfully Minister of Treasury Paulson
17 years
They know Biden will eat Palin alive. He will play football with her skull. They can´t let that happen.
No doubt...
Did you see this interview?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/25/palin-talks-russia-with-k_n_129318.html (excerpt)
:)
17 years
Yes I did. Obviously, she´s not the slightest bit embarrased!
That´s exactly the type of person who is typically mayor of small towns in Lower Bavaria. :D
17 years
With your election campaigns in America, at least you have some good entertainment.
It has been getting more entertaining. Last night on TV they were saying some conservatives are demanding that McCain drop Palin from the ticket.
The latest cover of the New Yorker isn't helping her:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/29/the-emnew-yorkerem-can-se_n_130354.html
:)
The foreign policy interview:
GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
Todays AP article on McCain and the bailout:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hocXiEYKKd07OxuNLMOX-vvxQ5sQD93GTFSO0
Republican John McCain has maneuvered himself into a political dead end and has five weeks to find his way out.
Last Wednesday, McCain suspended his presidential campaign to insert himself into a $700 billion effort to rescue America's crumbling financial structure. In so doing, he tied himself far more tightly to the bill than did his Democratic opponent, Barack Obama.
17 years
Palin is a source of some 1A entertainment, but she will not matter. Nor will gun control or abortion. Not even the "war" (it´s an occupation, not a war) in Iraq. Who would have thought that two weeks ago?
What matters now is what´s going on at Wall Street. I made a remark here some time ago that I think it´s possible the American Economy will go down Argentina-style. That doesn´t sound so awkward any more now!
We don´t know. Obviously, a ship like Argentina goes down pretty fast, because it´s small. What we see though is the same in slow motion. We don´t know if and when it stops, but we can expect that nobody will be doing anything to stop it. The government is defunct. Bush has not even support from his own congressmen. By the way, where is he?
People are obviously anxious. Huge banks are going down almost daily. Wall Street is in panic mode. Are the pension funds safe? Is the ship really sinking, along with them? That, and nothing else is what matters now. Even more so because nobody seems to have a convincing answer (hey, not even Santa Klaus!).
I think you can toss all the polls into the wastebasket. They are worthless now. McCain wanted a game-changer, here it is. I´m still confident about Obama´s chances though because it´s the sort of game-changer McCain could not have wanted. The Dems seem to cope with the situation much better than McCain, too. Quote McCain: "In a race increasingly centered on the economy, ... I still need to be educated." The Dems should play this clip in infinite loops now. :D.
Unfortunately there is no video footage of that quote: "Some of our bankers had shown themselves either incompetent or dishonest in the handling of people's funds. They had used the money entrusted to them in speculations and unwise loans." Roosevelt said that. If you ignore your history, you´re condemned to repeat it.
By the way, Michael Moore makes a very good point: The root of this crisis are people who can´t pay their debt. Most people who are broke have been ruined by their medical bills. Maybe this crisis wouldn´t have occurred if America had a decent health care system, like all other civilized nations on earth (and even a few uncivilized ones).
17 years
Palin is a source of some 1A entertainment...
That reminds me, I wanted to post this link above, but forgot:
Palin Claimed Dinosaurs And People Coexisted
:D
What matters now is what´s going on at Wall Street. I made a remark here some time ago that I think it´s possible the American Economy will go down Argentina-style. That doesn´t sound so awkward any more now!
Hard to imagine what things would be like if that happened.
The government is defunct. Bush has not even support from his own congressmen. By the way, where is he?
Maybe playing golf :)
By the way, Michael Moore makes a very good point: The root of this crisis are people who can´t pay their debt. Most people who are broke have been ruined by their medical bills. Maybe this crisis wouldn´t have occurred if America had a decent health care system, like all other civilized nations on earth (and even a few uncivilized ones).
Did he say that after the crisis?
17 years
Palin Claimed Dinosaurs And People Coexisted
Not only that:
Soon after Sarah Palin was elected mayor of the foothill town of Wasilla, Alaska, she startled a local music teacher by insisting in casual conversation that men and dinosaurs coexisted on an Earth created 6,000 years ago
Religion - the greatest source of 1A entertainment. Hoping to find "Religulous" on Youtube this weekend.
Hard to imagine what things would be like if that happened.
It is happening - that´s my point. The difference is only that the whole blow-up happened in a matter of days in Argentina while it is going on in America since last year. Other than that, it´s pretty much the same IMHO - a debt crisis and an infarction of the financial market. The open question is: "will it stop before the entire economy blows up?". Much of the economy is in trouble already: it´s hard to get bank loans in america these days. Remember that one?. One year earlier Amy would have gotten any amount she´d ask them for. I guess that sort of thing is happening everywhere in America now. No credit => no investment => no new jobs.
But there´s hope for Wall Street. Ask for advice in Argentina. They solved the problem. Hugo Chavez bailed them out! :D
Did he say that after the crisis?
Yes, I read it on his website. I can´t find it in a hurry now. He opposes the bailout, which is stupid IMHO. If you try to make sense of the whole matter, read this blog.
17 years
Yes, I read it on his website. I can´t find it in a hurry now. He opposes the bailout, which is stupid IMHO. If you try to make sense of the whole matter, read this blog.
I'll check it out. I don't know enough about economics to know whether the bailout is a good idea or not. Sounds like the taxpayers are getting robbed either way :)
17 years
I'll check it out. I don't know enough about economics to know whether the bailout is a good idea or not. Sounds like the taxpayers are getting robbed either way :)
From what I gather, it´s not very complicated. Banks have assets and debts. A healthy bank has more assets than debts. The difference is the net worth of a bank, owned by the shareholders.
What happened is that the value of much of the bank´s assets declined. When a bank reaches the point where the assets are less than the debts, people start to withdraw their deposits because they know the bank won´t be able to pay back all deposits - nobody wants to be at the end of the queue. That´s what causes the panic - the bank runs out of liquidity very fast. The bank goes down.
The Paulson Plan allocates 700 billion to the treasury to buy the bank´s assets at a price which is above the market price. This provides the banks with additional liquidity and the customers with confidence that the banks won´t run out of money. That does not mean the 700 billion are all lost - the treasury buys assets which are arguably worth more than their current market price. With some luck, treasury can even make a profit by selling those assets later when the markets have recovered.
The most important part of the bailout is that it buys time. You´re in the middle of a presidential campaign and the current administration is defunct. It is important to buy enough time. Enough to keep the circulation going until a new doctor arrives on January 20, 2009. Only then the real work begins!
The better plan would of course be not to buy bad assets but to take over troubled banks - nationalize them! When the bank´s debts are higher than their assets they are technically worthless for the shareholders anyway. This would only be fair - the shareholders sit in the board of directors and had to approve all those risky deals. They did approve out of pure greed. It´s their fault alone and they should end with empty wallets! That´s what we do in Europe with failed banks, by the way. Anyway, the Dems know Bush would veto such a solution. Those shareholders are his cronies - he is not going to let them down. He would rather let the whole economy go down burning. That is why the Dems tried the less radical path - make a few amendmends to the Paulson Plan and buy some time for $ 700 billion...
If you do nothing - nobody knows if the patient recovers on its own or will get a heart attack. Exactly that happened in 1929, which made Roosevelt´s job much harder.
You are absolutely right that the taxpayers = electorate now get the bill for their faith in the religion of unfettered markets. They will pay either way. If they don´t learn it the hard way they´re a lost case.
17 years
very few banks have as much cash in reserves as they have debtors - fractional banking and leverage. as long as they have enough to serve day to day functions of the bank, they can borrow the rest off the cash market. the problem is when people lose faith in the bank being able to pay off depositors should they want their money back. this isnt really whats happening - its not a traditional bank run; though its very similar.
imagine i put €100 in bank A. the bank then lends €80 of that to mr X. Mr X then puts that money into bank B. bank B lends €60 of that to mr Y who puts it in bank C. now we have myself with €100, mr x with €80 and mr y with €60.. except theres actually only really €100. problem. not really, unless we all want our money at the same time. if i want my €100 back, bank A can borrow what they dont have lying around a cheap rate, other banks do it from them all the time. no biggy.
the problem we're seeing is that instead of depositing €100, i give them a deed to a house worth €100 and borrow the cash. they sell the deed on, on the assumption ill eitehr pay the €100 plus interest, or they'll sell the house for €100 plus a little bit. again, this shouldnt be a problem. except not only can i no longer pay back the €100, even if they sell the deed they'll only get €80 as the property market is in trouble. multiply that by upwards of a trillion.
even taht shouldnt be a problem for the financial system itself (just for the few banks caught up in the bad loans); but we've got banks who lent out more than they owned and banks who bought up without knowing teh risks. bankers who got paid not on profts, but on turnover. and then someone panicked. every starts to trace back the money they owe and the money theyre owed and it turns out, there simply isnt enough money. banks start writing off debts, more people panick. short selling starts, people start a mini-run on the banks (mostly investment banks rathe rthan traditional), insurers start to panic because theyve underwritten billions and billions of debts they ultimately knew nothing about. in an effort to save what they have left, the worlds financial markets are willing to lose trillions of dollars and the cycle continues.
good times.
of course, if those debts are guaranteed to be paid back - by the government rather than by mortgagees, the banks who bought that debt, the banks who bought THAT debt and so on - then all SHOULD be ok. but it only temporarily fixes the symptoms and not the cause.
as far a nationalising banks goes - that'll never happen in the US. socialism is an incredibly dirty word. whats the solution? excellent question. i cant help but think if the state is going to absorb the losses of a bank, it should take on the equity, so nationalising. but thats a matter of principle, rather than of result based policy. injecting money back into the markets will restore a bit of faith (and thats ultimately what the financial world is based on; trust/faith) but not address the cause. its a fine line between damage control and doing the 'right thing'.
personally i think locking some of these 'city boys' up for a few years wouldnt hurt either. that'll teach 'em to risk billions in other peoples money and reward themselves for shifting numbers on a spreadsheet.
17 years
the problem we're seeing is that instead of depositing €100, i give them a deed to a house worth €100 and borrow the cash. they sell the deed on, on the assumption ill eitehr pay the €100 plus interest, or they'll sell the house for €100 plus a little bit. again, this shouldnt be a problem. except not only can i no longer pay back the €100, even if they sell the deed they'll only get €80 as the property market is in trouble. multiply that by upwards of a trillion.
The problem we´re seeing is actually worse than that. What those banks did is this: they kept buying up those € 100 deeds with borrowed money. The interest they paid for their credit was much lower than what you pay them for your mortgage. They thought they found the recipe for the perpetual money-making machine.
Then the real estate prices began to drop. Your deed is only worth € 80 now. That´s a problem but not a biggie for a healthy bank. They still get higher interest from you than they pay other banks for lending the same money. OK, a few borrowers will go into foreclosure but they still make money with the rest, so in the end they might just break even.
But then shortselling began and the banks went into panic mode. They stopped lending each other and everybody tried to sell those deeds at the same time, just to get them out of their books. Your house may still be worth € 80, but the market price for your deed is only € 25! That is somewhat irrational. That´s why I think treasury can even make some money with this bailout, even if it buys those deeds for € 50.
as far a nationalising banks goes - that'll never happen in the US. socialism is an incredibly dirty word.
Never say never. I have heard the term "defining moment of history" so often in those Obama speeches, which gives me a hint he understands the concept. There are those moments when every bit of conventional wisdom can be questioned. Your opponents have defeated themselves by surprise and need time to regroup. You get a short time window to push through everything you want. Helmut Kohl did exactly that (he´s a bastard but honor where honor is due) - the Berlin Wall fell in November 1989 and he immediately pushed for re-unification. Until then, everybody else thought that´s crazy and at least 50 years away. You know the result. Only a few months later the re-unification treaty was signed.
If the market is right just once and Obama wins 338-200*, along with a 58-42 majority in the Senate and a 240-194 majority in the House**, along with heavily disorientated Republicans whose free-market-religion has just spectacularly failed, he´ll have exactly what he needs to bring some "socialism" about!
I doubt he will, though. He´s a Lula, trying too hard to please everybody.
*edit 16:22: NC just changed colors so it´s even 353-185 now. Must look for the post now where I predicted a landslide to prove I´m always right! ;)
** edit 16:30: Texas, Mississippi and Georgia are "weak GOP" all of a sudden. TEXAS!!!
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