14 years
They are hitting the lot of hostels. See also this thread:
http://www.hostelmanagement.com/forums/hostelhotel-email-scam-warning.html
These scammers also send me booking requests even though I don't have a hostel :)
Hello all, I came across this scam 2 days ago and need to let you know.
Most of you have heard of 419-scams and the Nigerian mafia etc.
Now, my girlfriend manages a hostel in Portugal, I did some marketing for the hostel, so my email address shows on some sites.
I received an email some days ago, asking for the possibilty organizing accommodation for 4 adults in single or double rooms for 20 nights in August.
Fair enough I thought, replying with questions etc. 3 emails back and forth, they need 20nights, plus booked transfer to the hostel.
Price would be 2,800€ just for rooms.
I told them the hostel would send them the offer with price and that they would need to pay a deposit by IBAN or credit card. The answer to this email I will post here now, so you see it yourself:
Good day,
Thanks for your reply and assistance so far.I contacted our Bank this morning about the issue of payment and they advised that payment will come by check in order to be rest assured that we have your booking as well as everything being in place before our arrival.All charges will be deducted from the check payment,
However, our bank will send to you a Certified Bank Cheque of 11,000 Euro,that will cover your accomodation expenses and other services needed(like Transportation and otherlogistic miscellanous expenses, it is so because the sponsors of the trip made available only one cheque for all the expences which accomodation is the most important:
Our bank has now been instructed to send you the cheque, so that when you receive it you will cash it deduct the
cost of your services €2.800 Euros and wait for instructions on how to use the refund.
.
The name of the 4 guests :
1) MR. NAIL WHITE
2) MR. KARL JOHNSON
3) MR. JOHN B. MORGAN
4) MR. SAMUEL NEMETH
So,confirm this and provide me with the followings informations which i will immediately forward to our Bank: please make sure that you provide us with the correct and complete address to avoid sending the cheque to a wrong a person.
(1) YOUR FULL NAME (name on cheque)................
(2)ADDRESS (for cheque delivery)................
(3) PHONE NUMBERS.............,
for payment to be delivered to you.
Please remember that this business requires prompt response.I also hope there stay will be made comfortable.
Mr. Nail White
I need to say that I worked in law enforcement world wide and started to laugh when I read the fake guest list.
I replied to that email very friendly that there is no other option than paying the deposit by credit card or IBAN transfer.
The short reply was:
Due to our paste experiences we dont pay by any other means except by check which you deposite in your account and it shows that your bank knows you too.
Nail
What would happen next if you proceed is probably the following
You get a check, lets say those 11,000€. You go to your bank, because they know you, they put the balance onto your account. 2,800€ you happily book onto your room account. A day later or so, you get a call, that due to whatever, that trip for those 4 gentlemen was canceled. They are very sorry for the trouble, kindly let you have the 2,800€, but would need the rest of the money a.s.a.p. wired to them.
Believe me, there are people who would do this.
After lets say 2 weeks, you get a call from the bank, telling you that the 11,000€ check is a fraud, and you are stuck with 8,200€ lost. Never to be seen again.
So, please be very careful. Advise your staff at reception or even friends not to trust these mails.
"I also hope there stay will be made comfortable.
Mr. Nail White"
I will do my best to make their stay comfy in a state accommodation, after I sent this all to my friends in the UK. (IP-Tracing can be fun)
14 years
They are hitting the lot of hostels. See also this thread:
http://www.hostelmanagement.com/forums/hostelhotel-email-scam-warning.html
These scammers also send me booking requests even though I don't have a hostel :)
14 years
Thank you for the reply, I read it the other day.
In my opinion, we can't post enough of this on here to warn. Someone falls for it, and if it is the new receptionist who tries to help out.
14 years
Dear all,
I have received the same mails and the same condition about the cheque. I just want to alert that they are sending other mails with the name of Powel Loid for october!
14 years
We received this email today.
from James Carl
reply-to [email][email protected][/email]
to
date Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:19 AM
subject BOOKING REQUEST
mailed-by msn.com
hide details 11:19 AM (2 hours ago)
Hello,
How are you today?
I want to make a reservation in your facility for three couples from Hong Kong, on there forth-coming pre-season vacation and honeymoon.
Date :2nd to 11th August, 2010.
There are 3 couples.
1. Kindly get back to me with your total cost for 3 couples for the duration of 10 nights stay.
2. So that i can send you my Credit Card for immediate deposit.
Arrival Date: August 2nd, 2010.
Departure Date: August 11th, 2010.
Number Of People: 6
Number Of Rooms: 3
Kindest Regards
James Carl..
14 years
We have had 5-6 mails with similar content. Always a very polite manners and something like "we would like to book in your reputable hotel"..
Well, did some googleing: http://www.eastbournehouse.co.uk/Scam%20Bookings.htm
found name of ALL the scammers here, just searched with the name on website. Easy..
Spotting the first one was tricky, had no one to tell about it but realized it as soon as he started to talk about credit cards. Told him that we can do it, but we need a money transfer first :) never heard of him anymore. All the later emails were more or less the same.
hopefully this helps you!
14 years
Never believe in any similar. Every month minimum 5 times they try most of every hotels (with stolen credit cards e.t.c) finally they need a transfer from you.
14 years
i hate those people they just dont think about wat happens with you or the persons cc cut uf there hands i would say
14 years
hahaha I am very sorry but the fact that you replied to that email is hilarious!
I have a really good b/s radar and don't even bother to reply to those kinds of emails because they stick out like a sore thumb!
The finniest part is when they say that they have 3 or 4 coupled going on their honeymoons together and want twin rooms etc.
HILARIOUS!
I used to occasionally reply when I was having a rare quiet moment in the reception and would just tell them that we take no form of deposit or payment prior to arrival (which in many hostels I have worked at is the case, credit card for security and confirmation only, and a cancellation fee of some sort charge in even of no show or less than 24 hour notce, where I am now is a little more severe, but not enough to be worthwhile for one of these scammers).
Occasionally you can trhow them a bone and toy witht hem, I have seen some corkers in my time- I wish I had the dialogue available to post here now.
they are are usually a group and for 20-30 days, often Dr such and such.
If they ask you to make a quote like that via email and request to charge to credit card prior to arrival don't believe it. Anyone legitimate will call over the phone also, and are easy to pick from the frauds.
I hope this makes some kind of sense, just come off night shift in biggest hostel I have ever worked and am seriously sleep deprived! :D
Ciao!:rolleyes::eek:
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